This is the link to a very informative post about leaders of so called DNR/LNR. In Russian, no translation available (but for google translate). Yet I'm sure, for all those 'voice of russia' fans out there it wouldn't be a problem, would it?
http://friend.livejournal.com/1254962.html
Sunday, July 27, 2014
Sunday, July 20, 2014
False flag alert
According to this article (http://uainfo.org/yandex/342053-nas-vseh-pereodeli-v-ukrainskuyu-formu-i-perebrasyvayut-v-ukrainu-rossiyskiy-srochnik-pozvonil-mame.html) groups of Russian soldiers are being dressed in Ukrainian uniform and shipped through the border to Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
Friday, July 18, 2014
just a quick link that sums up the story about shot airliner
https://tackk.com/mh17
Thursday, July 17, 2014
SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane
Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was allegedly shot down by a group of Russian-backed Cossack militants near the village of Chornukhine, Luhansk Oblast, some 80 kilometers north-west of Donetsk, according to recordings of intercepted phone calls between Russian military intelligence officers and members of terrorist groups, released by the country’s security agency (SBU).
One phone call apparently was made at 4:40 p.m. Kyiv time, or 20 minutes after the plane crash, by Igor Bezler, who the SBU says is a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. He reports to a person identified by Ukraine’s SBU as a colonel in the main intelligence department of the general headquarters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation Vasili Geranin regarding the shot down plane, which is about to be examined by the militants.
The second intercepted conversation released by the Security Service of Ukraine was apparently between militants nicknamed “Major” and “Greek” immediately upon inspection of the crash site.
“It’s 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”
Read the full transcript of an intercepted phone call below:
Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).
Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?
IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.
VG: How many minutes ago?
IB: About 30 minutes ago.
SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.
“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.
“Grek”: Yes, Major.
"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.
“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?
“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.
“Greek”: Are many people there?
“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).
“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?
“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.
“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?
“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.
“Greek”: Are there documents?
“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.
The concluded remarks in a video that was extended:
M. Kozitsun : What was the passenger plain doing here? Oh, fuck it, they must've been importing spies. [They got what they deserved] Don't they know there's a war going on?
The concluded remarks in a video that was extended:
M. Kozitsun : What was the passenger plain doing here? Oh, fuck it, they must've been importing spies. [They got what they deserved] Don't they know there's a war going on?
Malaysian Boeing shot down by pro-Russian terrorists
This is how the story about #MH17 developed:
1.On morning of June 17, pro-russian terrorists boast that they have captured ground-to-air missile "Buk" and show the pictures.
2. Terrorists shot down a plane and say that this is Ukrainian military transport aircraft AN-26.
3. All YouTube and pro-russian FB and Twitter communities celebrate this fact and distribute video of the burning plane.
4. Ten minutes later, there are reports that the downed aircraft - is passenger airliner Boing which belongs Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 with 295 people on board.
5. All pro-russian communities starts to cut news about captured ground-to-air missile "Buk" and news about Ukrainian AN-26 crash and delete videos.
Here is news from Russian propaganda channel about Ukrainian AH-26, but with photos of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 !!! - http://lifenews.ru/news/ 136801
This article posted minutes after the crash claiming that "The rebels reported shooting down AN-26 plane in eastern Ukraine", supported by the video from the scene of Boeing 777 crash.
In case this article is deleted. This is webcache of it
http:// webcache.googleusercontent. com/ search?q=cache%3Atc3TPU2icp EJ%3Alifenews.ru%2Fnews%2F 136801+&cd=1&hl=uk&ct=clnk &gl=nl
1.On morning of June 17, pro-russian terrorists boast that they have captured ground-to-air missile "Buk" and show the pictures.
2. Terrorists shot down a plane and say that this is Ukrainian military transport aircraft AN-26.
3. All YouTube and pro-russian FB and Twitter communities celebrate this fact and distribute video of the burning plane.
4. Ten minutes later, there are reports that the downed aircraft - is passenger airliner Boing which belongs Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 with 295 people on board.
5. All pro-russian communities starts to cut news about captured ground-to-air missile "Buk" and news about Ukrainian AN-26 crash and delete videos.
Here is news from Russian propaganda channel about Ukrainian AH-26, but with photos of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 !!! - http://lifenews.ru/news/
This article posted minutes after the crash claiming that "The rebels reported shooting down AN-26 plane in eastern Ukraine", supported by the video from the scene of Boeing 777 crash.
In case this article is deleted. This is webcache of it
http://
Tuesday, July 15, 2014
Some comments on recent Ben Fulford's message
There's always a certain level of ambiguity regarding messages from 'behind the scenes'. And while messenger might not be responsible for the content of the message, the frequency of themes featured might hint on what one actually thinks about the matter at hand. If it's not confusing already, it'll be so quite soon, in fact, as soon as one analyses a couple of weekly messages, the content of which often contradicts itself. And yet, people refer to it as a plane truth, when forming opinion about the events they are no direct witnesses to, in a country they learned about from Wikipedia...
Off to the matter at hand: I've selected certain paragraphs which made me sit to this blog again. Because it hurts, really.
"Now let us go to the Ukraine. There, as our sources in Russia point out" - and since when Kremlin is very balanced and takes no part in what's happening in my country? Are there any sources in the actual ground zero that are not affiliated with the faction that would benefit from current chaos?
"an English speaking mercenary army" - Ukrainians are very chatty and observant, if there be a foreigner walking he would attract immediate attention. Not to mention a whole bunch of them. Apart from the messages in Kremlin related news-agencies no one was able to support or at least to pinpoint the location of English speaking 'mercenary army'.
"kicked out a legitimate government and installed a puppet regime" - Yanukovich fled on his own, no one chased him. And rigged elections is common knowledge for Ukrainians. Party of Regions used blackmail and threats to get what they couldn't rig. Common knowledge. Surprised, that 'sources' didn't mention it. Or it was okay while Yanukovich played along to certain tune, eh?
"that immediately began provocations against Russia and Russian speakers inside the Ukraine" - really? And what would that be? I'd like a list.
"The mercenaries further threatened to cut off the gas pipeline linking Russia to Germany" - again, where and when? If it's about Yarosh discussing a possibility of exploding the pipeline, it was just a consideration of dire measures in case things turn really ugly. Not to mention that such an event would be very convenient excuse for both EU and Russia to justify a 'peacemaker presence' of Gazprom's specops that would 'secure the pipeline' which, should I remind the 'sources' spans the whole Ukraine. Enter the 'division' scenario. Once again beneficial for Kremlin.
"They, like ISIS, also claim to have non-government controlled nuclear weapons" - lovely. And where are they stored? All facilities of those have been dismantled long ago after the Washington memorandum, under which Russia, Great Britain, US et al guaranteed the safety and intactness of Ukraine's borders, it's economy etc. The economy part has been broken during the 'customs bans' that Russia unleashed on certain export sensitive industries of Ukraine during recent years.
"This campaign is also being run by the Rand Corporation, according to multiple sources" - so first it was Blackwater, but when it didn't play out, it's another corporation?
"Furthermore, a Russian intelligence source told the WDS they had issued a warning they were going to attack the Crimean capital of Kiev with Nuclear weapons if the puppet regime took over the Russian speaking Ukrainian city of Donetsk" - eh.. where? I have lived more than 20 years in Ukraine, and never have I encountered Crimean capital of Kiev. That must be from a parallel reality, the same one that has 'English speaking mercenaries'.
"The WDS then informed the Russians there would be no sanctions if they went ahead and annexed the Russian speaking portions of the Ukraine" - of that I had no doubt, sadly. And how's the landgrabbing any different from what they accuse the US of? Oh, maybe it's because they're the ones doing the landgrabbing and not the US.
I so wanted to believe that there were powers aiming to create a better future for all. This kid's belief in superheroes that save the world. Sadly, it turns out that there's no such thing. Just factions pursuing their interests...
Off to the matter at hand: I've selected certain paragraphs which made me sit to this blog again. Because it hurts, really.
"Now let us go to the Ukraine. There, as our sources in Russia point out" - and since when Kremlin is very balanced and takes no part in what's happening in my country? Are there any sources in the actual ground zero that are not affiliated with the faction that would benefit from current chaos?
"an English speaking mercenary army" - Ukrainians are very chatty and observant, if there be a foreigner walking he would attract immediate attention. Not to mention a whole bunch of them. Apart from the messages in Kremlin related news-agencies no one was able to support or at least to pinpoint the location of English speaking 'mercenary army'.
"kicked out a legitimate government and installed a puppet regime" - Yanukovich fled on his own, no one chased him. And rigged elections is common knowledge for Ukrainians. Party of Regions used blackmail and threats to get what they couldn't rig. Common knowledge. Surprised, that 'sources' didn't mention it. Or it was okay while Yanukovich played along to certain tune, eh?
"that immediately began provocations against Russia and Russian speakers inside the Ukraine" - really? And what would that be? I'd like a list.
"The mercenaries further threatened to cut off the gas pipeline linking Russia to Germany" - again, where and when? If it's about Yarosh discussing a possibility of exploding the pipeline, it was just a consideration of dire measures in case things turn really ugly. Not to mention that such an event would be very convenient excuse for both EU and Russia to justify a 'peacemaker presence' of Gazprom's specops that would 'secure the pipeline' which, should I remind the 'sources' spans the whole Ukraine. Enter the 'division' scenario. Once again beneficial for Kremlin.
"They, like ISIS, also claim to have non-government controlled nuclear weapons" - lovely. And where are they stored? All facilities of those have been dismantled long ago after the Washington memorandum, under which Russia, Great Britain, US et al guaranteed the safety and intactness of Ukraine's borders, it's economy etc. The economy part has been broken during the 'customs bans' that Russia unleashed on certain export sensitive industries of Ukraine during recent years.
"This campaign is also being run by the Rand Corporation, according to multiple sources" - so first it was Blackwater, but when it didn't play out, it's another corporation?
"Furthermore, a Russian intelligence source told the WDS they had issued a warning they were going to attack the Crimean capital of Kiev with Nuclear weapons if the puppet regime took over the Russian speaking Ukrainian city of Donetsk" - eh.. where? I have lived more than 20 years in Ukraine, and never have I encountered Crimean capital of Kiev. That must be from a parallel reality, the same one that has 'English speaking mercenaries'.
"The WDS then informed the Russians there would be no sanctions if they went ahead and annexed the Russian speaking portions of the Ukraine" - of that I had no doubt, sadly. And how's the landgrabbing any different from what they accuse the US of? Oh, maybe it's because they're the ones doing the landgrabbing and not the US.
I so wanted to believe that there were powers aiming to create a better future for all. This kid's belief in superheroes that save the world. Sadly, it turns out that there's no such thing. Just factions pursuing their interests...
Meh
In the beginning, I thought I'd use this place to share some thoughts and observations, that often contradict official story-lines in re: coverage of events that took place in my country. I had a vague idea that the facts I were to present would be beneficial for certain parties. Eventually, I was proven wrong. There is so much relevant information out in the open, even in English (not to mention vast deposits of Cyrillic sites or facebook posts). Just go there and take it. Guess, people are much comfortable to pick the facts that complement their chosen formed over the years outlook with no regards to what is really happening. I need to give up this idea of ripples on the water and whatnot. What is one ripple amidst the stormy sea?..
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